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Great site! I stumbled across it while looking for LA City "approved" computer floor glue. Yeah, things haven't changed much here with earthquake codes, actually gotten worse since Northridge in 1994. We have a mutual connection with Image West in Studio City. Sadly, I was the principal engineer that took your facility apart in 1986 after the assets were old off by the bank. The entire inventory was sold to The Post Group for a paultry sum of $125K. The Post Group was really only interested in the ADO. I could care less about the ADO but found a gold mine in all that VersaEFX parts inventory. We moved the Scanimates directly to a downtown warehouse (in Watts) never to see AC power (or daylight for that matter) again. I did spend a few hours studying the innards thinking "you got to be kidding, this thing actually did what the FGS4000 and SGI 2400 does?" Remember we are talking 1986 and those were the hottest graphics systems of the day. I set up one of the IVC 9000's in our dub center to play with and actually made some outstanding recordings with it. Finally my boss at the time, Rich Thorne, told me to get it out of there, that means the warehouse or take it home. I was apartment bound at the time so down to the warehouse it went to rot along with the scanimates. I since learned in early 2000 one of the IVC 9K's was sold to a VTR collector for $200. The other one and the VR1200 were scrapped along with the Scanimates. You built a very well engineered facility and it looked like a great place to work if you were into R&D. Too bad it was killed by technology. Andy Delle Currently VP Engineering, Technicolor Hollywood (formally Complete Post) Systems Engineering Manger, Laser Pacific 1999 - 2002 VP Engineering, The Post Group 1992 - 1999 VP Engineering, Varitel Video 1990 - 1992 Co- Chief Engineer, The Post Group 1985 - 1990
Andy delle <>
Los Angeles, CA USA - Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 15:47:10 (EDT)
This was a very useful site for me. I am studying Computer Science at Newcastle Uni and for the Subject -Computer Graphics- we are making a presentation on Computer Graphics history and its use in Televison. However it would be really great if any Aussies out there could e-mail me and let me know what Australian shows used the Scanimate! Especialy any shows on Nine, ABC, SBS, Seven and TEN. If anyone is interested in the subject's web site, that is the link that I have used above. Thanks again!
Clive Lee <>
Newcastle, NSW Australia - Monday, September 30, 2002 at 21:54:58 (EDT)
Very Interesting, The amazing power of the Internet strikes again. I'd be interested in knowing any Stories or Tidbits of Information that you may have on the work that Computer Image did for Mr. Lucas way back in the day
Chris Baker <>
Oshawa, Ontario Canada - Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 07:40:39 (EDT)
I'm correcting my previous entry as starting at CI in 1969, not 1979! I worked a total of seven years at CI. I left for several years to finish college and came back to work a third shift, during which time two tape operators and Red Daniels died!. Dave Harvey hired me an we worked closely for many years, he as director, myself as Scanimate animator. Dave's hobby was collecting rocks and he created many belt buckles from petrified dinosaur bone he found around Colorado.
Dennis Kolehmainen <>
Auror, CO USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 13:54:00 (EDT)
I've enjoyed the updates to this site and I'm feeling more like a cult member than the second fulltime animator and 14th employee of CI, from December 1979 for a total of seven years, icluding tours of duty in Denver, Dolphin (666 5th Av), Merlot in London and almost the Amazon jungle. I never worked at Image West but encouraged several folks into the business that did work there. I'm retired now from Lockheed Martin and would like to hear from old friends. Cheers!
Dennis Kolemainen <>
Aurora, CO USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 13:46:39 (EDT)
I remember Scanimate being used on The Electric Company...but when was it used on Sesame Street?
Jeffrey Gray <>
USA - Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 03:05:55 (EDT)
Boy...lots of familiar names...I worked for Lee in '74 & '75. Sorry to hear of his passing. I'm still in the Denver area having worked for Duca-Richardson, Ampex, Evolving Video and now Interact-TV in Boulder. I'm now about ready to retire I think. It was good to read everyone's comments - Thanks for sharing.
Angela Hersh Duca <>
Broomfield, CO USA - Friday, May 31, 2002 at 13:41:29 (EDT)
OK, I apologize, disregard my previous message. I justy noticed that the latest entries go on top, not at the bottom, so disregard my earlier message and have a good day, as wished by me, Ed Marzola, from somewhere in Europe.
Ed Marzola
Madrid, Spain - Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 20:52:09 (EDT)
What??? No entries since 1996?? Hey, somebody, WRITE! OK? See ya, Ed Marzola
Ed Marzola
Madrid, Spain - Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 20:47:58 (EDT)
Don't know why it took so long for me to get pinged by this sight. What a trip down memory lane. I was just talking to Dan Seeley last summer about doing an historical animation trip at one of the animator parties at Hannaway and Associates. Dan never worked at CI, but he was my predecessor at Z-Axis, the company founded by Phil Zimmerman after he left CI. I went on to product management for the Bosch FGS4000 and the Pixelerator. (the Bosch also won a technical emmy). Other stints at Ampex, SGI, and a CG start-up called EVT. Currently I consult at Hannaways, working on the future of television, as well an artist. Would love to hear from any of the 1980-83 crew. I was one of the very fortunate to be there for the "birth" (as Lee put it) of System IV. I had the opportunity to play all three machines, Scanimate, Ceasar and System IV. It was my first job out of art school and was a great launching pad for future endeavors. I would love to see all the local Colorado folks get together sometime! If I mentioned everyone I miss I would sound like the Romper Room lady....
Susan Crouse-Kemp <>
Broomfield, CO USA - Monday, May 06, 2002 at 23:41:33 (EDT)
Absolutly amazing. For so long I have wondered what sort of equipment had been used to create that truly unique form of video titling. I only wish that the demo reel was available in a quicktime format rather than Real (bad) Player. Thanks again for the web page!
Bill McMullen
New York, NY USA - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 23:23:40 (EST)
Hey, I never worked with Scanimate, but I have a question: Was Scanimate used in the "BRAT"/"CAT"/"SHAME"/"BLAME" sequence in "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory," because it sure looks like it.
Jeffrey Gray <>
USA - Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 00:57:29 (EST)
Wondering whatever happened to Rick and Ron, who were doing Symbolics work at Crosspoint for awhile? If anyone knows their whereabouts, have 'em check in with me. Thanks!
Craig Burnett <>
Leawood, KS USA - Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 14:06:02 (EST)
Oh yeah! I remeber scanimation! I remember an Ampex ADO salesman saying "ADO will allow you to move images in a way that succeeds previous techniques like Scanimation!" What a line of garbage huh! I was always impressed with image wests work. We used to do some duplication and distribution, and occasionally there it would be, and Image West preroll! What application the products were used for I never did find out, because we never really knew who the end client was. But it was great stuff!
Chad Woodward <>
Belleville, WI USA - Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 13:55:24 (EST)
LOVE the site! I am wondering now that I see this technology, could the logo used for the daytime drama "Another World" (for the time between 1967-1981) have been Scanimate-ish? Several colored rings fan out from the center and form an interlinked circle, then about 11 or 12 "Another World" lettered logos come in from all directions and merge together within the circle. Just wondering. I've always liked that logo and remember being mesmerized by it as a little kid. Thanx for your time.
John D. <>
., . USA - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 16:23:17 (EST)
It's nice to finaly after all these years find out where those logos came from! I know it sounds odd, but I just started wondering one day. I find the technology used to create something leaves a definate sound/look or feel to it. The scanimate has this wonderfull bold colourfull look to it, making it highly memorable, even years late I quickly reconise it's creations. Either way way this site is going to be the latest addition to my 80's retro site links page, it's too good not to include somewhere. Oh, and you said you have the last working one left. Does it still get comercial use?
Ben <>
England - Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 07:52:08 (EST)
I attended After Affects Advanced, over at Moviola, a couple of weeks ago. I'm in love with the modern world.
Alex Caltabiano <>
Long Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 23, 2001 at 12:30:31 (EST)
Many years ago, I mean 1984-85, I had the opportunity to work with Ron Hays and now, looking for him on the net, I met your precious site. I'm very happy and I want to thank you.
Renato <>
TORINO, ITALY - Wednesday, November 07, 2001 at 12:05:17 (EST)
it's realy impresionanta
skwal <>
paris, 75 france - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 22:48:04 (EDT)
Hi Dave, thanks for keeping the site active and interesting. Kind regards, Ed Marzola
Ed Marzola <>
Los Angeles, CA USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 00:28:37 (EDT)
My Word! I looked in on the site again, and WOW! Old friends galore! You've done a terrific job of collecting people, Dave, as well as picking up on the history of Computer Image. I've got a new email address: Dave Holman is now I'm back in the Denver area, after a gig with DreamWorks SKG and designing and teaching an animation course, semi-retired, running Nichimen's Mirai out of my home. Once again, WOW! Dave Holman
Myron D. ("Dave") Holman <>
Aurora, CO USA - Saturday, July 14, 2001 at 11:27:11 (EDT)
Greetings! Love your site! I'm a 23 year old graphic designer...just getting started in the industry, but wish I could have worked on one of these. Newer isn't always better, and I still like the old Scanimate stuff better than what is out there now! Love the old Sesame Street and Electric Company stuff - I'm especially fond of the character "Nobody" (literally no body), a Scanimated chracter based on the oringial Jim Henson puppet. He was just two eyes and a mouth, and asked kids to "count the dots as they go by." Would love to hear from anybody who worked on this project (back in '70 or '71 at CI in Denver.)
Jeni Rizio <>
Rome, NY USA - Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 15:42:52 (EDT)
We closed Creative Tool in 2000.There wasn't much for us to do with "who wants' to be a..." "or Suvivor" other than becoming contestants.Russ went back to Sydney and I'm painting pictures with a paint brush.The "Tool" was fun and we managed to be our own masters for a few years which was a welcome change.We still have stuff on the air at this writing mainly on the "Drew Carey Show" and "Who's Line is it Anyway?"
Sonny King <>
Los Angeles, CA USA - Thursday, June 14, 2001 at 14:23:02 (EDT)
Saved from Hollywood at last! I'm working at JPL (the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) in Pasadena as senior video producer. It's an amazing place. Just walking into the cafeteria you can see brainpower hoving over people's heads like heat mirages on a hot highway. Not too poetic, but I think you get the idea. I've been there about a year and I love it. They ask what's wrong with you if you stay "late" (past 5 pm)! Howdy to all! --Henry
Henry Kline <>
Valley Village, CA USA - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 18:13:11 (EDT)
Saved from Hollywood at last! I'm working at JPL (the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) in Pasadena as senior video producer. It's an amazing place. Just walking into the cafeteria you can see brainpower hoving over people's heads like heat mirages on a hot highway. Not too poetic, but I think you get the idea. I've been there about a year and I love it. They ask what's wrong with you if you stay "late" (past 5 pm)! Howdy to all! --Henry
Henry Kline <>
Valley Village, CA USA - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 18:12:42 (EDT)
It is extraordinary for me to come across this SCANIMATE site. In 1972, I "got my job through the NEW YORK TIMES" as a trainee SCANIMATE computer operator at Dolphin Productions on 45th street in NYC. I did not become a computer operator because the video engineer walked off the job one day and I had some VTR and "mixed media" experience and Bruce Davis jammed me into the tape room where I became the "Video Tape Production Suervisor" as it still says on my full resume. The skills that I learned from that enabled me to continue in television and video editing after my days at Computer Image/Dolphin I am now a video editor and am still amazed that with After Effects I can do some of the things on my desktop the SCANIMATE did with a whole (impressive) roomful of equipment. It was a true blast to see the Electric Company opening and stills from the Pontiac Ventura ad. We were all singing that jingle for weeks after they left!! I still have the sample reel form Dolphin on a VHS which is unfortunatley in black and white because the deck that played the portapak video tape could only play it that way. I met Lee Harrison one time when he came to NYC to make a presentation for funders and I was the projectionist (remember no VCR's then!!) that showed the basic showed the demo reel that Computer Image had at the time. He obviously was very busy at the time but he took a lot of time to talk to a 24 year old. He shared his visions with me. I was inspired. It is amazing to see those pictures of the scanimate. Once I find the slides (probably discolored) and figure out to scan them I will try to w-mail them to this site if you're interested. Again thanks for the memories. I was at Dolphin from Nov 1972 to December 1973 when they were on 45th street before the big explosion (that's another story) I would like to hear from anyone from the Dolphin days who remembers me and our antics.
Joseph Schwarz <>
New York, NY USA - Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 20:21:54 (EST)
As most of the other entries in this guestbook, also I did stumble onto this site by accident. But what a fortunate accident that was. This site contains a lot of treasures for people like me - I have always enjoyed computer animations, and have worked professionally with multimedia since the late 80's (almost before the term multimedia was invented ;-). This site provides a lot of interesting and fun facts about the early beginning of CG-like animations. And since we today work more or less with the same stuff, only with other tools, it may be more valuable than ever before to know a little about the history behind digital and analog animations. Heh - I even managed to get a couple of new ideas from watching some of those old tapes :-)
Flemming Sveen <>
Spikkestad, - Norway - Wednesday, February 21, 2001 at 11:47:17 (EST)
A wonderful site! It provides wonderful material for the generation like me, who love computer graphics but don't know about the early beginnings. Very interesting and entertaining.
Gabriel Zachmann <>
Darmstadt, Germany - Thursday, February 15, 2001 at 03:45:20 (EST)
Found this by accident (and very glad I did). I have been a CG history fanatic for many of my 31 years, and its been difficult to find any information of 70's and early 80's CG accomplishments. Thank you for this site! Its so interesting to look at the past in regards to computers, probably because they change so often its remarkable to look back at was once considered "state-of-the-art". Thanks again to all those that made this site; job well done!
Eric <>
Columbus, Oh USA - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:00:23 (EST)
daniel <>
france - Monday, November 20, 2000 at 19:57:48 (EST)
Well, well. Further proof that if just a few people have done something, somebody else will make a web page about it. In 1982 I came to NY with a list of seven computer animation companies (I could only find seven in existence at the time) and I got hired by number eight, DOLPHIN PRODUCTIONS. I remember realizing at first glance that SCANIMATE was an ANALOG VIDEO SYNTHESIZER, and not really a computer animation system at all, Which was when Production Manager Bruce Davis muttered something under his breath like, "Well, it's an (analog) computer animation system..." Right, Bruce. Tell me another one. I really did enjoy those days ('82 to '85) working with Bruce and Bob Blansky, not to mention Gary Covick, William Figueroa, Monica Whittig, John Goodman, Tom Wright, Victor Fernando, Andrea Smith, Les DePhillips, Connie White, Carol Craig, Steve Gabriel, Vincent (whose last name I can't remember, and the only person I ever knew to have get sick from SCANIMATE operations), and the rest of the folks that passed through there. Smelling the chocolate chip cookies Allen Stanley used to bake in a toaster oven behind the electrically locked door of his office. Drinking free beer from a beer client with Gary, right after turning on the beer sign in the kitchen at precisely 5PM. Dodging the surveillance cameras that were strategically placed on every floor. It was a nice environment though, being a converted five story townhouse on the upper east side. Like most everyone else, I started in the tape room, handling those 2 inch thick reels for the IVC-9000's. I even dropped one on my foot once, ouch! Scanimate was not very alien to me, as I had spent a lot of time with modular analog music synthesizers since the late 70's. Actually I moved on to another esoteric piece of eauipment after SCANIMATE: I left Dolphin to work as the East Coast Video Rep for Australia's FAIRLIGHT INSTRUMENTS, attempting to sell, service and promote the CVI (Computer Video Instrument), still the only device ever designed specifically for live video special effects performance. Like SCANIMATE, the CVI had almost as many shortcomings as it had features, but was totally unique and (at least for awhile) capable of imagery not possible with any other device. In the eary 90's I seem to remember getting a phone call from my old boss, Allen Stanley himself. Unlike when I worked for him ("You can call me 'Mr. Stanley'"), he was very chummy on the phone. I couldn't figure out why on earth I was even talking to him until he finally came to the reason for his call. He offered to sell me the SCANIMATE from Dolphin for $5000, was I interested? At the time, the only thing I could think of to do with it, would have been to flip it on its back, cover it with glass and make a coffee table! But that wasn't going to work in my 400 sq. ft. apt, nor did it fit into my budget. I guess we are probably due for a Dolphin Productions reunion soon. Let's see who else weighs in from the east coast on the subject of SCANIMATE...
Abner Dumoff <>
New York, NY USA - Saturday, November 18, 2000 at 08:56:12 (EST)
this is cool. an analog machine generating demo fx. one of the first i presume? [yes i don't have time to read the entire page, i just went for the eye candy :) ]
piter pasma / email removed by request ;
NL - Thursday, November 02, 2000 at 10:46:41 (EST)
I stumbled across your accident by accident, but I'm sure glad I did. Absolutely fascinating! Thanks
Magpie <>
Canada - Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 00:54:00 (EDT)
Heya guys... just surfed on by looking for kewl sites... yours looks really nice... maybe check out my site sometimes... ... it's a free music/video site for musicians... upload your music/video/image files for free to promote your music around the world. See you there :)
conrad <>
Hollywood, CA USA - Thursday, August 24, 2000 at 21:51:58 (EDT)
I am Lee Harrison's daughter-in-law and I found this site searching on Yahoo! looking for information on Scanimate. I am so thrilled to read everyone's comments about their history with CI and with Lee and the team. I wanted to drop a line to let you all know that I started my own company, and named it after Lee. It's a marketing & PR agency called "LH3". Soon there will be a dedication page for him on our site (hence the reason why I'm looking up Scanimate information). He was the most brilliant and amazing man, and when it came time to come up with a company name, LH3 popped into my head. I have been running fast & furious ever since. All of our creativity and inspiration is from Lee. And we're proud to have LH3 as our name. Just my little way of keeping his memory alive on a daily and minute-by-minute basis. He's always with us!
Lauri Harrison <>
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, August 16, 2000 at 01:13:20 (EDT)
Found your site by accident. Scanimates, CAESAR, System IV wow a blast from the past. I was an investor, consultant and board member of Computer Image in the late 70's or early 80's (I can not remember the exact dates.) I worked with Lee on many business plans and financial matters and helped negotiate with the French to sell and install a Scanimate. CI was going to use the cash to build System IV. My passion, which Lee shared, was using CI's technology to add a new dimension to education, but there never seemed to be enough spare cash or machine time to get our projects off the ground. There is an old test tape of Jimmy Carter singing in the rain. That would make a great addition to the CI archives if someone could convert it to a Web download format. I was the only guy on the board that did not have either an Oscar of an Emmy. Lee was a unique individual and an inspiration to work with. I think with genius comes complexity, it cannot be avoided. Lee was brillant and creative and innovative and ofter too trusting. He could be unyielding on business matters and we argued frequently over the correct course for computer image and how to maximize its potential both as a business and as a tool to serve society. No matter how much friction was going on Lee was always kind and considerate of others. He never let the pressure rob him of his dignity or anyone else's We dreamed alot of dreams together and I see many of them around me in this new video age. It was an honor to have known Lee Harrison and I think of him often. My deepest sympathies go to his family and friends.
Paul Bullock <>
Rochester, WA USA - Friday, July 07, 2000 at 22:06:35 (GMT)
Ahh, Scanimate! When men were men and a 90 minute reel of tape could give you a hernia! I'll always remember working (slaving) at Dolphin in NY, with Fred Kessler, Klieser, Sonny King, and Bruce Davis. The lessions learned there (mostly, how to make things work even when things aren't working) are sorely missed by today's digital wippersnappers.....
Mike Saz <>
NY, NY USA - Thursday, June 22, 2000 at 21:05:42 (EDT)
Just an update with my new e-mail address. I was cleaning out some old storage boxes and came across photos, brochures, letters and more from my CI days. I had to come to the website to see who's chacked lately. Thanks, Dave for keeping the site alive and well. Dooes anyone know of a Sony helical scan machine in working condition? I bought one from CI and have a lot of tapes I made that I can't see anymore. I think I may have CI demo tapes, too. If anyone wants to visit the Columbine, let me know.
Dennis Kolehmainen <>
Aurora, CO USA - Saturday, June 17, 2000 at 19:10:46 (EDT)
Holy shit! Scanimates! Aaaaaaaagh! Working as a tape operator at Image West in Hollywood was my first regular job in show business, and I eventually got to be a "animator" there.... This led to a career as an videotape editor, and eventually to writing and producing big fat lies about NBC television programs. I'm good at it. Watch this: "Veronica's Closet is funny! Really, I swear!" See, I can say that with a straight face. Amazing, really. We all made some pretty amazing things with Scanimate and cheap switcher tricks in the 80's. What amazes me now is how we did that, what with the amount of pot we smoked at lunch time every day....
Dennis Schaefer <>
Glendale, CA USA - Tuesday, May 09, 2000 at 23:51:46 (EDT)
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Kingsport, TN USA - Tuesday, May 09, 2000 at 15:32:13 (EDT)
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lou lamariana <>
ny USA - Saturday, April 15, 2000 at 07:22:31 (EDT)
Scanimate Rocks! It all started there. I use a Flame now and a whole lotta pc software to do the new digs, and still some things are reminiscent of just what we did back then.
Robert Scopinich <>
Malibu, CA USA - Wednesday, April 12, 2000 at 02:52:10 (EDT)
I was looking for info about analog computers and I found you... it is really amazing and I even haven't looked yet in the animation,good to know that analog computers still here - after all,hope to see one closely. Wish you luck.
Shay Levi <>
Haifa, ISRAEL - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 17:38:35 (EDT)
yes, it brings back nothing but fond memories of working with Red Daniels, Phil Zimmerman, and Glen Basso on West 2nd Avenue in Denver. And commuting back to Black Hawk after a few rounds with Red at the Columbine. I was very sorry to hear about Lee Harrison III's death. A man with a vision. I'll remember the decorous cast party we had for the young innocent director from the Electric Company after shooting animation for the Children's Television Workshop. I can still hear the yelling and screaming coming out of Glen Basso"s office...when he was the only occupant. I still see scanimate images in my dreams.
arnold olean <>
lebanon, me USA - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 01:52:48 (EST)
I just stumbled on this page and this Scanimate thing is completely new to me... Now in the era of pocket size digital "scanimators", this monster is somewhat like the modular Moogs for the synth freaks! And the effects look absolutely beautiful! Bringing the old effects back on tv-production would be a fresh idea, too bad these things (so I suppose) are very rare.
Teemu Luoma <>
Oulu, FINLAND - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 09:58:34 (EST)
I worked with several of the CI folks after KDS took over, as an editor compositing the incredible images that those guys (and gal) created. I was always amazed at the stories everyone would tell about the years at CI, and as a young buck back then, I had tremendous respect for all those pioneers. I found this page today because I did a 'net search for Nick Smeloff, to find out what he's doing these days. I thought of him today because my wife had really, really bad breath. Those who've met Nick can identify! While I had no real role in the development or history of Scanimate (I worked mostly with the output of System IV and Symbolics), I was proud and honored to work with the likes of Dave Holman and Vivian and all the other folks who stayed on after KDS took over. Every time I see an animated character created using "today's" technology, I think of all those who went before, paving the way and blazing the trail. Here's to all of should be very proud of your contribution to the world of computer animation.
Craig Burnett <>
Kansas City, MO USA - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 01:34:05 (EST)
Hi, I found this page through an Electric Company fanpage. I always wondered how those bumper captions and graphic designs were done to link the segments. It was also great hearing the ORIGINAL original version of the theme song--keep up the great work.
Andy Leclerc <>
USA - Tuesday, January 18, 2000 at 13:30:21 (EST)
my buddies robert scopinich and dave blum have often regaled me with tales of the scanimate at image west, which i took for a shared acid flashback. nice to have proof that such an amazing assemblage of analog technology existed. i'm a flame artist at laser-pacific in burbank, and am dying to see this thing in action if you take it on the road again. siggraph 2000 perhaps?...
brian ross <>
burbank, ca - Saturday, January 08, 2000 at 16:57:40 (EST)
Dear Friends: I did not know abount Scanimate at the time, but in the early seventies we were doing two kinds of computer animation at Keitz & Herndon Studios (gone now). We used a custom made digital controller to make an Oxberry Master Series Animation stand do perfect multipass and optical animation on film. Our work was observed and copied to do the star gate sequence in "2001 A Space Odyssey". It was a "bounce-shot". Another studio had a copy of our equipment and the special effects guys for kubrick saw that stand which was a copy of ours. Also we were doing CRT manipulations using computer time at an large aerospace contractor's computer lab. Scanimate is a whole new thread for me to learn about. At this time, my concern is strictly in the area of digital manipulation even though I personally still love film as a medium. Thank you for your excellent web-site. I'll return. John Simon
John Simon <>
Las Vegas, NV USA - Thursday, October 14, 1999 at 16:32:19 (EDT)
I've worked as an animator at Walt Disney Feature Animation here in Florida since the studio opened in 1989. Frequently odd lots of merchandise, found but unclaimed articles from the theme parks or stuff from hotels, parks or any other aspect of WDW are sold to employees for cost or less. One such item struck me and reminded me of my time (2+ years, starting 1983) at CI in Denver. A Sony BVH 2000, an inspiration for drool at the time I started there, was standing outside, under a tent waiting to be picked up after auction. It came from the prodcution house next to our new animation building, they're going to all digital tape. The price, with WF-vector scope, 2 small monitors and banks of DAs? $350. The CTW Sesame Street spots were a gas to work on, one was nominated for a 1983 Monitor Award for computer animation (Cranston Csuri swept several awards that year). SRA was a special form of pennance, offset by the joys of Mexican ads for ballot-stuffing governors and toys (called "Bombin Puppy", subtley and creatively kerned by the art dept to read "Bomb in Puppy"), scores of midwestern banks and far east TV stations, televangelical hucksters, several days of what might be called 'jamming' on Scanimate, Caesar and Sys IV for source material for Domenic Iaia, rude and compromising whiteboard sketches of the late management team of Boogernose and Rubberneck, bleary visits to the Columbine and Gaslight, early phone sex purveyors dispatched to the control room speaker phone, Lucky Lager on every-days-a-Friday afternoon beer runs, hooting at typographical errors in local naughty want ads ("Spanish male seeks ladies for hot afternoons. Has boneless energy"), and an inspired crew to enjoy it all with. I'm still using sine functions to animate some secondary action and make controllable noise, developed much of my sense of timing turning knobs, throwing switches and dialing up frame counts. Thanks to Lee and the crew for a great time and rare opportunity. Hope to see you all again some time. Rob Bekuhrs, Supervising Animator Walt Disney Feature Animation
Rob Bekuhrs <>
Clermont, FL USA - Sunday, October 03, 1999 at 04:35:40 (EDT)
It would be nice to set up a reunion at the Colombine Steak House. I will try to contact everone in town. Just email me.
Jan Mitchell <KN0QCE@AOL.COM>
USA - Friday, September 24, 1999 at 22:57:07 (EDT)
Heard about this site today from Doug Houston who is at KCNC. I was only at Computer Image about 18 months. Jake Jabs and American Furniture are still using the stuff all you guys designed. We put in the Navy Stars for Jake. They are still there. Would like to hear from everyone who was there when I was. Glad to have found this site. Been at KWGN now for over 20 years. Hope all you good people are ok. Lets keep in touch. Thanks, Jan.
Jan C Mitchell <KN0QCE@AOL.COM Or>
Northglenn, Co USA - Thursday, September 23, 1999 at 01:34:58 (EDT)
Re. Ann Iaia Payne's posting about Dom Iaia: Yes, all of us who knew Dom found that he touched our lives. It hurts like the dickens to know that he will no longer call or drop in to share a story and a glass of wine, or to show us his latest watercolor. But in a very real sense he is still with us, and we still smile when we remember what a kind, intelligent and sensitive man Dom was. -- Bruce Holman
Bruce Holman <>
Nevada, MO USA - Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 10:56:03 (EDT)
I stumbled across this site because I missed my brother, Domenic Iaia who died in 1995 very much and wanted to connect with someone who knew him. I was delighted to come across the "Scanimate Files". I'd love to hear from someone who remembers this brilliant, outrageous, creative, sometimes petulant, intuitive, sensitive, and loving man who is missed dearly by his family. Ann Iaia Payne
Ann Iaia Payne <>
Auburn, NY USA - Tuesday, March 30, 1999 at 21:33:25 (EST)
Larry Cole told me about the website and suggested that I check in to it. I started with CI as a VTR operator in 1983 and left in 1985 to return to broadcast TV. Larry hired me because I had experience with the Ampex VT1200 "quad" machine. I think I learned more about the elements of what makes good TV and animation in my time there than I have since. It was a wide range of fun and new things to learn. I eventually got to be a Technical Director and even directed a few elements of my own before leaving. Does anybody still get headaches thinking about the SRA project? It's on one-inch and beta, but I still have some of the material that I worked on at CI. My wife couldn't believe some of the stories. I actually saw one of our PBS elements on Sesame Street one morning as my kids were watching! I ran into Larry when I applied for my current job with Jones. The computer part of CI must have stuck because I'm six classes away from a bachelor's degree in computer information systems. What great time it was!! Hi to everyone who checks in. And to quote Dave Holman, "May we continue the tradition of never leaving the Columbine sober!"
Mike Snyder <>
Littleton, CO USA - Thursday, March 04, 1999 at 12:02:55 (EST)
I ran into Janie Huston at my dentist office, of all places, and she told me about this site. Sorry I wasn't able to make Lee's memorial service - I had a shoot that day. I joined CI in January of '78 as a TD, later becoming a director and then production manager. I got out in May 1984 shortly after Chuck Schlecter and KDS took over. Probably the most bizarre time of my life. We worked with world-class clients but would take them out and get them drunk at lunch. No matter what the job was bid at, we would expand the work to fill the time until the next client was due in. I remember often driving clients back to their hotel (no taxi would come to the area after dark) at 2am. I worked with ad agencies from all over the world, Saul Bass on a film project, Ronald Reagan's 1980 campaign, the rock group Rush's large screen tour projection animation, network television stuff and thousands of other projects. Never met such a talented group of people in one place before. How the operators created such beauty and magic out of such cranky old equipment was constantly amazing. I've been operations manager at a couple facilities in Denver in the years since and am now running playback operations for Jones International. We've got four cable networks we uplink from Englewood. I spent a lot of last year shooting country artists for our Great American Country network. Didn't know anything about country music before, but I sure do now. Hi to all the old gang that may check in here...
Larry Cole <>
Conifer, CO USA - Thursday, March 04, 1999 at 10:05:21 (EST)
I was a Technical Director at Computer Image in 1980. I had the opportunity to work on some great projects with great friends. When I left CI in 1981 the production department was still making state of the art animation. Times have certainly changed!! It was great to attend the celebration of Lee's life at the Harrison home this summer. My wife (Janie, also worked at CI) and I got to see Glenn, Ed, Peggy, Joe, Ron, Pete, Hal, Dave and Bill just to name a few of the ole CI employees. I am Manager of Operations at KCNC-TV in Denver and have been there since I left CI in 1981. It was great to log on to this site and catch up with old friends like Dave Small!
Doug Houston <>
Littleton, CCo USA - Friday, October 30, 1998 at 22:30:21 (EST)
Maricon Suave said you were looking for me.
Alex Caltabiano <>
USA - Friday, October 30, 1998 at 17:03:25 (EST)
Yesterday I did a web search on "Scanimate" and was thrilled to find that Dave Sieg is putting together a history of Scanimate's role in early computer animation. From about January 1973 to Sept. 1974 I was the Scanimate operator for the London operation "Merlot Scanimation" working with Sonny King who was the graphic artist and creative talent at that time. I have a few pictures and memorabilia from those days and plan to send some along to Dave. The set up was in the basement of the Rank Building in Soho, the heart of the London film district. We had some fun times and tough times like the coal miners strike when we could only work part of the week because of power restriction and black outs. Since that time, I returned to my first career in chemical engineering research, but I will never forget those days with Scanimate./John Osborne
John Osborne <>
Midland, MI USA - Tuesday, October 13, 1998 at 20:51:05 (EDT)
I applied for a job at Computer Image 17 years ago today and was interviewed by Glenn Baaso. I didn't get the job but the visit was a very interesting experience, so I got curious and looked up Scanimate on the Web today. Your site is fascinating.
Lee W. Kuivinen <>
Rolling Meadows, IL USA - Friday, October 02, 1998 at 17:23:41 (EDT)
What a rush of old memories.I can't believe it's been 20 years. I'm still suffering from a hang-over from going out with Red Daniels and drinking massive amounts of beer at some cheezy Denver dive.Those days at C.I. were terrific...a bunch of dedicated people who had a passion for what they did. Thanks Thanks Earl McClure for tracking me down.
Jeff Clark <>
Birmingham, AL USA - Friday, September 25, 1998 at 09:13:22 (EDT)
Dave I was thrilled to see your web page on scanimate. I worked for Computer Image in Denver, Colorado from l972 until about 1979. During this period I worked myself up the ranks from a territorial sales rep to finally becoming the sales director in charge of software for the company. I have many cherished memories working with Lee Harrison and the gang. Dreamers all, but what a group. If, and that's a big if, we only had foresight at the time, we could have conquored the computer world, but alas we didn't. I miss the gang and the wonderful work we did on a daily basis. This was a special moment in my life and I was proud to say I was a part of it. Unlike the others, I quit the company three times. Each time I would quit, they would send someone out with a tennis racket to "play with me" (I used to love to play tennis after work) so of course I would win, and afterwards they would convince me I needed more, and I would go back. Finally my wife broke my tennis racket and that was the end of that. I got completely out of the business and am now a geologist and head of an envrionmental firm in Des Moines, Iowa, but I miss the wonderful times I had during this magic period in my life. I still have a library of tapes of demo's that we completed while I worked there. One of the most significant, which I can no longer find, was a special demo we prepared for Elvis Presley for one of TV specials. It was a one of a kind, and I wish I still had it around, but I can't seem to locate it. If I do, I'll let you know. Anyway, your web page made my day. Earl McClure
Earl McClure < McClure)>
Des Moines, IA USA - Monday, August 24, 1998 at 15:04:35 (EDT)
This is a very interesting site. The fact that someone has taken the time to profile this is simply great. Thanks to the people at ZFx. Garth Gardner, President, Garth Gardner Co, Inc.
Garth Gardner <>
Wayne, NJ USA - Sunday, August 09, 1998 at 00:56:27 (EDT)
WHAT A GREAT SERIES OF PAGES! I was a technical director, then director at Computer Image in Denver from 1980-1982. Working with Dave, Vivian, the amazing Phil, Chuck, Kirk, Larry, my good friend JJ, Cliff, John, and many other talented folks. This was like a reunion for me to browse through these pages. Working there, with that equipment, at that time, was the edge, and it shaped my entire carrer. I loved it, and miss you all. Hope these pages find their way to all my friends from a wonderful period in my life! Loren
Loren R. DeCoster <>
Hollywood, FL USA - Wednesday, August 05, 1998 at 22:01:16 (EDT)
This is great that you put this page together. It has brought back many memories.
Glenn Hill <>
San Jose, CA USA - Saturday, July 04, 1998 at 18:24:12 (EDT)
Greetings, all! I was a Scanimate operator and sometime director for CI in Denver (1979-80). It was one of the best experiences of my proffessional and personal life. I miss the people I met there very much. Since then, I've been a video editor and producer in NY and LA. My wife Debbie and I have a 13 year old son named Simon, and I am currently the supervising editor for PUBLIC EYE WITH BRYANT GUMBEL. I did not continue in computer graphics. Editing gives me the same kind of tactile pleasure I got, manipulating images on scanimate. Anyone out there from CI during that time, please drop me a line via E-mail. CHEERS! David Small
David Small <>
New York, NY USA - Monday, June 15, 1998 at 16:46:14 (EDT)
check out my SCANimation Site!
danny carver <>
houston, tx USA - Wednesday, May 13, 1998 at 09:31:06 (EDT)
Dick, thanks for letting us know about Lee. He was an inspiration to many of us.
Dave Sieg <>
Kingsport, TN USA - Tuesday, April 21, 1998 at 21:55:18 (EDT)
I am sorry to have to inform you that Lee Harrison III, creator of the Scanimate and founder of Computer Image, died on March 29th.† He had been very ill for several years - seriously so since last October.† The symptoms were many and varied but the underlying problem was pulmonary fibrosis.† A memorial event is being planned sometime in July to celebrate his life and work. Lee's wife Marilou may be reached by email at Personally, Lee was an inspiration to me, and was in part responsible for my devoting a large part of my career to computer graphics. I'll never forget the excitement and wonder on the faces of people at an early Scanimate demo (must have been in the '60s). Since then I've won an Emmy and recently an Academy Award for developments in CG, and it wouldn't have happened without Lee's inspiration and outstanding example of technical and artistic creativity. Even though I didn't see him much over the last many years, I'll dearly miss Lee, and he will always be in my heart and thoughts. -- Dick Shoup
Richard Shoup <>
Palo Alto, CA USA - Saturday, April 04, 1998 at 14:58:20 (EST)
Damn do I feel old. Alive and well in DC, and running a Quantel Henry V6. Boy if we only had one of these 25 years ago! Hi all and thanks Dave.
Roy Weinstock <>
Arlington, VA USA - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 22:49:55 (EST)
Just an update for email address. You can also find info on Sonny King and myself at
Russ Maehl <>
Studio City, USA - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:27:12 (EST)
Wow! Scanimate. I worked for Dolphin Productins in the early eighties before it's demise. While not a scanimate operator I was tape operator and CMX editor with five 2" machines running in sync. Scanimate would always drift off course, you could never replicate a move you did yeterday so you had to make it now and know you couldn't fix it exactly if you needed to (though we did fix a lot of stuff. Those IVC 9000's could take a few generations.) . Bob Blansky, Bruce Davis, Allen Stanley had the best clients coming through their doors. It's too bad it came to a swift close. New technology quickly made working with scanimate and 2" vtr's a chore and companies such as most post houses could then compete in the graphics business. Unfortunately Dolphin didn't grasp the impact of all that new technology until too late.
John R. Goodman <>
Bingen, WA USA - Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 14:18:57 (EST)
Well, I started out on a Scanimate at Dolphin Productions in 1976 working with Sonny King, now a principal at Creative Tool in LA. Me? I started Digital Effects in 1978 (TRON) then moved to Omnibus/LA (Flight of the Navigator) until that company imploded in 1986. Then I met Diana Walczak and started our current company, Kleiser- Walczak Construction Co. We have offices in the Berkshires in Western MASS, and in LA and NYC. Dolphin was the shittiest place I ever worked, but I had fun with Fred Kessler (Click 3X) and Sonny King, with whom I cavort whenever I am in LA. Best wishes to all those who started out on a Scanimate, coolest machine of its time (which was very short!) Jeff Kleiser (
jeff kleiser <>
Williamstown, MA USA - Saturday, December 20, 1997 at 22:43:26 (EST)
I was a technical director at Computer Image in Denver for less than a year, but it was easily the most fun job I ever had. Toons were something I had always admired and wanted to create, but alas, I had neither the patience or the artistic skills to suceed. Working in the video biz, my girlfriend at the time Pat Lehman, another CI alum introduced me to the CI crew. After some begging, I got a tech director job. It was like being given a license to drive the starship enterprise. I was there less than a year, but loved every minute. Myron Holman sort of took me under his wing and attempted to show me how to use CAESAR, but the machine and I were not often enough free to become proficient. I was also paranoid of nudging any of its many analog adjustments, for fear of making some work in progress even more un repeatable. I became friends with Rob Bekuhrs, a scanimate and later system 4 operator, and Angie, a system 4 operator. I have fond memories of the doodlings on the white board in the hall...usually mayhem visited upon popular (and thus despised)commercial animated characters like the Care Bears and Smurfs. Among the "Careless Bears" were bleed-a-lot bear, who foolishly played with razor blades, Amperage Bear (fingers in outlet), 2D Bear (squished by steam roller), and many others. I was last hired, first fired by the KDS owner. Eventually I went off to the business world in IL, got hitched and worked at many companies that built computer battery backup systems. Now I work for a power quality consulting firm, doing their video training tapes (yes, a little animation with Lightwave)and other duties. Drop me a line.
Steve Cosgrove <>
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, December 15, 1997 at 13:09:07 (EST)
Extremely interesting. It reminds me of a device I patented in the early "70" (since expired) called the "CHROMADDITION" which would add one or two colors to monochrome video. It used a dual slicing process. It did some other things including "burst" phasing and removal to permit easy manipulations with simple switchers. Congratulations in succeeding where I kind of lost focus. Peter Vander Wel
Peter Vander Wel <>
Holland, mi USA - Friday, October 10, 1997 at 22:43:40 (EDT)
Hi Dave & whoever else knows me! Glad to see you are keeping Scanimate alive -- now we're all beginning to appear as old car collectors dreaming about the good old pre-electronic ignition times when we could tune-up our engines in one easy afternoon. Anyway, Scanimate times meant good times for me and many others. It was an unusual machine that created a whole new biz, and many owe it their professional start. I have some 35 mm and 16 mm of great work by Sonny King and others. If anybody wants to make copies, just e-mail me. Nice work Dave, we appreciate it. Cheers, Ed Marzola (My new e-mail is now:
Ed Marzola <>
Los Angeles, CA USA - Saturday, May 24, 1997 at 16:49:28 (EDT)
Hi Dave, Long time no speak. Just wondering whatever happened to you and the Scanimate... D.
Dag Spicer <>
Mountain View, CA USA - Wednesday, April 23, 1997 at 19:33:07 (EDT)
Are you selling any of your old SGI computers (in your basement)??? Please email me....thanks!
Tom <>
Irvine, CA USA - Sunday, March 02, 1997 at 04:57:19 (EST)
I have some info on a few of the KDS/Smeloff Teleproductions alumni. Bob Simons died of a brain tumor around 1993, Nick Smeloff has moved to Chicago area where his wife is VP at the NBC affiliate. Debi Garrity, Mark Hintz and Mark Shephard are all still in the Denver area and listed in the phone book.
Dean Rolley <>
Telluride, CO USA - Monday, November 11, 1996 at 21:51:28 (EST)
I'm running the public access tv station here in Telluride,CO and have been for the last 5yrs. We are a one person operation but have accumulated a pretty good library of local productions and beautiful stock footage. We are currently putting together a Media 100 edit system. We are located in the Middle/High School here and work alot with the students. We have produced 2 4th grade "films", Tomboy Bride and Telluride: Lit Up Like the 4th of July. In these productions the students help write the script, act all the parts and are shot film style on location around town.
Dean Rolley <>
Telluride, CO USA - Monday, November 11, 1996 at 21:39:59 (EST)
I'm sorry to be so late to signing in to the guestbook. A relative in Michigan pointed out your home page to me. Itís great to hear about all my friends doing so well! Unlike many of my former co-workers who are having productive careers in computer graphics, I ended up in DATA PROCESSING! I have been blissfully working for the last 15 years at Lockheed Martin as a programmer/analyst for various business systems. It's not quite as exciting as running Scanimate but sure pays better. I was Computer Imageís 14th employee, starting January 1970, and the second Scanimate operator. Jack Wilmore was the first animator and he went to Image West when it opened in 1970. I was vacationing in Orange County during Christmas of 1969 after getting out of the Army and visited Image West. I arrived there in time to help Ed Tajchman unload the rental truck he just drove from Denver to get Image West going. I remember meeting Tommy Smothers (the Yo Yo Man) in whose office Image West was first located. Tommy was on CI's board of director. I worked a total of seven years for CI, including one year in New York working for Alan Stanley (he fired me and I came back to work in Denver on Scanimate). I also worked at Merlot Productions in London for three months until we were locked out and shut down for non-payment of rent. It was a very productive three months working with Sonny and Chris. I stayed in London for another 5 months while CI was attempting to sell or lease Scanimate. We put together a video for Tangerine Dream during that time. The resell/lease failed and I tore Scanimate down and shipped it back to Denver (along with my Norton). I also visited Far East Labs in Tokyo for several weeks where they had a Scanimate installed. I visited Phoenix briefly to help with the Levitz Furniture Scanimate with Dave Marriot. Red was always present, where ever I was, helping keep things together. He got rolled in New York City late one night walking the streets after a dinner with me and lost his paycheck. I remember Francis Honey (Chief Engineer), and worked closely with Dave Harvey first shooting 16mm film from Scanimate. I think video came after we moved to Second Avenue. I remember Animac, the first virtual reality computer, made from Tinker Toys, velcro, canvas and wires. I also operated Caesar a little (prior to System 4) doing graphics work when Scanimate choked or needed help. Those were the days! We were all pioneers - we worked SO hard thru long, long hours. It took its toll on all of us! I later worked the night shift with the tape operator who rolled his Jeep and died. I think Jack Labin suffered a serious head injury falling from a swing while playing with his kids some years ago. Jack and I used to race our Nortons in the parking lot. Bob Richardson is living in Evergreen. Abby Dunn is still in Denver. I currently am living just a mile east of Computer Image's humble beginnings in Denver along the South Platte river. I'll be getting married (for the first time) the week before Thanksgiving. I'll be 55 on December 7! Cheers, everyone!
Dennis Kolemainen <>
Denver, CO USA - Monday, October 07, 1996 at 22:29:18 (EDT)
Ya All, One of my most favorite sites, Alive and well at Rhythm & Hues Still the same as Scanimate, just different tools. (Da Flame) I work with Clark Anderson here (he's a director, I a Visual Effects Supervisor and Flame Artist) He got his start at CI in Denver in the early days.... What goes around........
Peter C. Koczera <>
Newhall, Ca USofA - Wednesday, September 18, 1996 at 17:58:16 (EDT)
Dave, I heard about this page thru henry kline. He's working at modern video in burbank as an efx supervisor Im working at hollywood digital as an editor. Im glad to see that your keeping the scanimate fire still burning.. hope to hear from you soon Jackson
michael jackson <>
toluca lake, ca USA - Tuesday, September 03, 1996 at 19:46:08 (EDT)
Hi Dave, Here is the latest on Tom Heyes. His last name spelled H-E-Y-E-S, and he is a writer/producer at Paramount Pictures (Work Phone 213/956-5464). Have u contacted Henrietta Jordan? (818/985-1685). I accessed Creative Tool's Home Page thru yours, nice, eh? Warmest regards, Ed Marzola
Ed Marzola <>
L.A., CA USA - August 21, 1996 at 14:30:52 (EDT)

Russ Maehl <>
Studio City, Ca USA - Monday, February 19, 1996 at 18:44:51 (EDT)
joe is at disney, camera/animation.b.ross was at dome prods. in canada (we heard he got fired).jim howe is at pac. ocean post santa monica.bruce harvey was at grass valley.duca is in atlanta tel.404 924 9645. hen recline is at modern videofilm in burbank.sam price is in equador.leroy weaver is somewhere in la we think. where is jack labin (a former scan. engineer in denver)?.tom hays was at paramount attempting to write scripts.marzola drops in here every now and then. we are not at creative tool WE ARE CREATIVE TOOL! PS. MIKE JACKSON (THE REALLY WHITE ONE) IS AT HOLLYWOOD DIGITAL.

heres more-koczera is at editel la. its Gary Six Mc kinnon(not mc kenna).there was a Merlot Scanimation in london, England which was in business for about two years.John Osborne was the animator.(last heard of in Canada).Chris Pooley was the engineer. (now at Visnews in London).Peter kehr was the manager(011 071 402 8338 office No.).And I S.King was the art director (1974-75 to 76-77). Dennis Kolemainen was in Denver, animator last tel.303 777 0693.have you got Art Kellner, Bob Scopanich, George Anderson (at C.F.I. we think) George Hayward ran I.W. in 77 for a few years.Brian was 2nd banana.Bob Blansky was art Dolphin.Jeff Kleiser* animator, was also at Dolphin when I arrived in 1977 Dolphin was owned by Allan Stanley , probably the most disliked owner of all times.(Ross and Hayward were always very impressed by Stanley). *Kleiser Walczak Costruction Co.Willimstown Mass.Jim Gable was at I.W. as you know,now owns graying and balding.Ringo wanted to buy one once, went to denver, cash in hand but Merlot (rich kids,Michael Glass, now dead car crash, Julian Sacher, Marks and Spencer heir) beat him to it.Russ reminded him recently but due to possible dope and booze intake over the years, he could'nt remember that or the other band members.(We think he was embarrassed.)
Russ Maehl <>
Studio City, Ca USA - Monday, February 19, 1996 at 18:44:51 (EDT)

Note: Myron Holman's Memoirs have been moved to their own page.

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